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Bilbo le Hobbit - Peter Jackson (2012)


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PJ et fran Walsh sont indissociables aujourd'hui pour moi.

 

Je comprend... mais le seul truc qui peut encore me déranger chez Jackson, c'est justement elle pour le coté ultra cucul qu'elle ramène un peu dans tous les films de PJ. PJ est un dieu du divertissement alors que FW officie dans le bon sentiment. C'est un constat perso donc pas une attaque contre elle... c'est juste que j'aime pas trop ce coté là!

 

Oui je comprends ça , mais a mon sens ces deux la ont trouvé ensemble un équilibre qui me plait bien, mais encore une fois cela dépend sur quel projet ils se penchent, FWsur bad taste 2 ça le ferait moyen... mais j'aime beaucoup cette femme qui de toute maniere est quelque part la muse du maitre et la femme de l'ombre dpuis un moment déja.

 

 

Euh je rappelle quand même que la mère Walsh a co-écrit "Brain Dead" et "Les Feebles" avec Jackson...

 

C'est vrai qe depuis elle a sacrément dérivé par contre. Tout ca c'est de la faute a sa copine Boyens... Je le sens bien.... Ca y est, entre meuf, elles se lachent...

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Peter Jackson s'est fait couper l'hobbit?

 

(bon, elle est pas de moi, mais je l'aime bien...)

 

Tain té tro ouf oite... Avé Quitano Jacsonne ki rode... tu va te fèr étripé avec ton almana vermo

 

Bon les gars je vous préviens , le premier qui fait chier je lui coupe LA bite et pas L'HObitt , mais je comrpends tres bien que vous sachiez pas faire la difference.

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C'est mal barrée pour un Hobbit par Jackson:

(pour ceux qui n'aiment pas l'anglais, Jackson poursuit New Line pour arnaque sur la trilogie LOTR)

 

LOS ANGELES (Hollywood Reporter) - "Lord of the Rings" director Peter Jackson has sued New Line Cinema for allegedly withholding profits from the first film in his Oscar-winning hobbit trilogy, "The Fellowship of the Ring."

 

The suit, filed in U.S. District Court in Los Angeles by Jackson's company, Wingnut Films, makes 19 allegations, including breach of contract, breach of good faith and fair dealing and unfair competition.

 

One of the principal claims of the suit is that Time Warner-owned New Line engaged in various forms of "self-dealing" with affiliated companies, an issue that has been vigorously pursued by plaintiffs attorney Stanton "Larry" Stein.

 

It seeks unspecified damages, restitution and an order barring New Line from striking any more deals without seeking the most competitive and beneficial terms from unaffiliated third parties.

 

The case stems from a 1998 written agreement for Wingnut and New Line to jointly produce and distribute the three films. Among other terms, Wingnut got paid a fixed fee and shared in "first dollar" gross receipts.

 

New Line is accused of improperly deducting certain home video costs that were not spelled out in the agreement, paying an incorrect royalty rate for DVD sales, delaying the reporting of certain licensing revenue and failing to audit subdistributors, including those affiliated with New Line.

 

The latter claim goes to the broader issue of self-dealing, in which Wingnut accuses New Line of allowing its subdistributors to charge a higher fee than would be expected from nonaffiliated companies.

 

Companies that have sued under this theory tend to claim that a partner cut a favourable deal with an affiliate rather than put the license or property out to bid in the free market.

 

In a statement, Jackson's attorneys said they attempted to resolve the dispute with New Line through a routine audit. "That has proven unsatisfactory thus far, (and) this lawsuit is the next logical step," Jackson's representatives said.

 

New Line officials said they do not comment on pending litigation.

 

The suit against New Line and its subsidiary Katja Motion Pictures concerns only the 2001 film, which the suit notes has grossed $314.8 million (164 million pounds) at the North American box office and more than $556 million internationally, not counting merchandising and video revenue. The suit makes no mention of the other two films in the trilogy.

 

New Line also is accused of failing to include revenue and other guarantees received from promotional partners in merchandising receipts. Wingnut claims it also was not compensated for the use of lyrics penned by Jackson's wife and collaborator, Fran Walsh, and the couple's script in video games.

 

puis:

 

Shaye denies Jackson 'Hobbit' gig

New Line topper says director not welcome

By NICOLE LAPORTE, DAVE MCNARY

 

The feud over "The Hobbit" is getting hotter and meaner.

In the most recent sturm und drang over J.R.R. Tolkien's fantasy novel, long-discussed as a project for "Lord of the Rings" helmer Peter Jackson, New Line co-chairman Bob Shaye told Sci Fi Wire that Jackson would never direct "The Hobbit" as long as Shaye is running New Line.

 

New Line, which released the "LOTR" trilogy, is in a public feud and lawsuit with Jackson over money the helmer says is owed him from the "Rings" pics. Trilogy grossed more than $3 billion worldwide in ticket sales alone.

 

"It will never happen during my watch," Shaye said of Jackson directing "The Hobbit" along with an "LOTR" prequel. New Line and MGM own the rights to both films.

 

Shaye's words are a more explicit snub to Jackson than occurred last November, when Jackson posted a letter to his fans on the "LOTR" fan site Theonering.net saying that New Line had alerted him that they were proceeding to make "The Hobbit" without him.

 

The severing of ties was prompted by Jackson's declared refusal to make a movie with New Line until his ongoing lawsuit is settled. (Suit was filed in August 2005 after accounting issues were raised in a partial audit of the first "LOTR" film.) New Line told Jackson that because the studio's option to the property, obtained from Saul Zaentz, was set to expire, New Line would proceed sans Jackson.

 

People close to the situation say the lawsuit is nowhere near being settled.

 

Shaye's attack was more acerbic, and definitive, than simply walking away from the table.

 

Jackson got "a quarter of a billion dollars paid to him so far, justifiably, according to contract, completely right, and this guy ... turns around without wanting to have a discussion with us and sues us and refused to discuss it unless we just give in to his plan," Shaye said. "I don't want to work with that guy anymore. Why would I? So the answer is, he will never make any movie with New Line Cinema again while I'm still working at the company."

 

Shaye also went on to say that he was "offended" that Jackson, as well as several "LOTR" thesps ("because, I'm guessing, of Peter's complaint") would not participate in a video celebrating New Line's 40th anniversary.

 

On Wednesday, Jackson issued a statement in response to Shaye's outburst, saying, "It is regrettable that Bob has chosen to make (the argument) personal. I have always had the highest respect and affection for Bob and other senior management at New Line and continue to do so."

 

Jackson addressed the suit by saying: "Contrary to recent comments made by Bob Shaye, we attempted to discuss the issues raised by the 'Fellowship' audit with New Line for over a year, but the studio was and continues to be completely uncooperative. This has compelled us to file a lawsuit to pursue our contractual rights under the law. Nobody likes legal action, but the studio left us with no alternative."

 

As for the anniversary video, Jackson said, "In light of these circumstances, I didn't think it was appropriate for me to be involved in (the video). I have never discussed this video with any of the cast of the 'LOTR.' The issues that Bob Shaye has with the cast pre-date this lawsuit by many years."

 

A source close to Jackson called Shaye's remarks "a strategy to try and create favor (for New Line) by saying how much money Peter made. The issue isn't what Peter made, it's why Bob and Mike (Lynne, co-chairman of New Line) don't want to talk about what they made. What is it that they don't want us to see?"

 

Shaye and Lynne were exec producers on the "LOTR" films.

 

As with earlier exchanges in this feud, Shaye's remarks were vented via the Internet, where Jackson fans avidly lurk. (Jackson's statement was released to Daily Variety.) Indeed, all parties seem intent on generating buzz, and perhaps action, by addressing the issue publicly.

 

Last October, Rick Sands, chief operating officer of MGM, which owns the distribution rights to the "Hobbit," posted a letter on Theonering.net in response to a petition signed by 50,000 fans demanding that Jackson be allowed to direct "Hobbit."

 

Sands wrote: "MGM would be thrilled to collaborate with the Academy-Award winning director on this MGM/New Line Cinema production."

 

New Line would not comment Wednesday about Jackson's latest statement.

 

et enfin:

 

Our issue with New Line Cinema has only ever been about their refusal to account for financial anomalies that surfaced from a partial audit of The Fellowship of the Ring. Contrary to recent comments made by Bob Shaye, we attempted to discuss the issues raised by the Fellowship audit with New Line for over a year but the studio was and continues to be completely uncooperative. This has compelled us to file a lawsuit to pursue our contractual rights under the law. Nobody likes taking legal action, but the studio left us with no alternative.

 

For over two years, New Line has denied us the ability to audit The Two Towers and The Return of the King, despite repeated requests. Film auditing is a common and straightforward practice within the industry and we don't understand why New Line Cinema has taken this position.

 

In light of these circumstances, I didn't think it was appropriate for me to be involved in New Line Cinema's 40th Anniversary video. I have never discussed this video with any of the cast of The Lord of the Rings. The issues that Bob Shaye has with the cast pre-date this law suit by many years.

 

Fundamentally, our legal action is about holding New Line to it's contractual obligations and promises. It is regrettable that Bob has chosen to make it personal. I have always had the highest respect and affection for Bob and other senior management at New Line and continue to do so.

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J'y comprend plus rien à cette histoire. MGM ne possède pas les droits du Hobbit? Ils doivent les récuperer ? New Line possède les droits ? MGM et New Line ne devaient ils pas faire les films ensemble ?

J'ai l'impression que New Line a voulu trop jouer dans la cour des grands alors que le studio est bien trop jeune pour cela.

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J'y comprend plus rien à cette histoire. MGM ne possède pas les droits du Hobbit? Ils doivent les récuperer ? New Line possède les droits ? MGM et New Line ne devaient ils pas faire les films ensemble ?

J'ai l'impression que New Line a voulu trop jouer dans la cour des grands alors que le studio est bien trop jeune pour cela.

 

Apparement MGM ne possede qu'une partie des droits selon Jackson:

A couple of months ago there was a flurry of Hobbit news in the media. MGM, who own a portion of the film rights in The Hobbit, publicly stated they wanted to make the film with us. It was a little weird at the time because nobody from New Line had ever spoken to us about making a film of The Hobbit and the media had some fun with that. Within a week or two of those stories, our Manager Ken Kamins got a call from the co-president of New Line Cinema, Michael Lynne, who in essence told Ken that the way to settle the lawsuit was to get a commitment from us to make the Hobbit, because "that's how these things are done". Michael Lynne said we would stand to make much more money if we tied the lawsuit and the movie deal together and this may well be true, but it's still the worst reason in the world to agree to make a film.

 

Several years ago, Mark Ordesky told us that New Line have rights to make not just The Hobbit but a second "LOTR prequel", covering the events leading up to those depicted in LOTR. Since then, we've always assumed that we would be asked to make The Hobbit and possibly this second film, back to back, as we did the original movies. We assumed that our lawsuit with the studio would come to a natural conclusion and we would then be free to discuss our ideas with the studio, get excited and jump on board. We've assumed that we would possibly get started on development and design next year, whilst filming The Lovely Bones. We even had a meeting planned with MGM executives to talk through our schedule.

lettre integrale datant novembre ici

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Apparemment Peter Jackson a enterré ses disputes avec New Line et produira le "Hobbit", embauchant dès lors Sam Raimi à la réa.

 

http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3042&Itemid=99

 

 

Il y a bien longtemps, j'avais fantasmé l'idée de voir Monsieur BAD TASTE et Monsieur EVIL DEAD marcher main dans la main en oeuvrant sur un truc rempli de tripailles, de zombies, d'extra-terrestres, de démons et autres créatures de enfers complètement déglinguées et envahies de pulsions aussi lubriques que meurtrières.

 

Mais je ne sais pas pourquoi, j'ai comme l'impression que c'est trop tard

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While MGM and New Line want to keep Jackson's involvement in the film as broad as possible, hinting that he may take up both writing and directing responsibilities, Jackson's manager Ken Kamins told Hollywood Insider that Jackson won't be directing the films. "Peter won't be directing because he felt the fans have waited long enough for The Hobbit. It will take the better part of every day of the next four years to write, direct and produce two Hobbit films. Given his current obligations to both The Lovely Bones and Tintin, waiting for Peter, Fran, and Phillippa to write, direct and produce The Hobbit would require the fans wait even longer.

Source

 

Maintenant ce n'est pas un NON définitif, sachant que le dernier projet de production de PJ est tombé à l'eau (c'était Halo Le Film), on ne sait pas trop ce qu'il vaut en tant que simple producteur le PJ. Donc je pense qu'il y a quand même une chance pour qu'il les réalise (en plus avec la pression de McKellen et autres survivants de LOTR, cela devrait le faire).

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  • 4 months later...

Ca commence avec une collaboration avortée entre le producteur Peter Jackson et le metteur en scène mexicain sur l'adaptation du jeu vidéo Halo. Ca se poursuit avec l'annonce inespérée de la mise en chantier d'une adaptation de la "préquelle" de J.R.R. Tolkien. Ca continue avec l'implication, une fois les déboires avec la firme New Line réglés, de Jackson dans le rôle de producteur. Par la suite étaient nées les rumeurs seon lesquelles Guillermo del Toro serait pressenti, puis en négociations. Et depuis quelques temps, l'annonce officielle et définitive se faisait désirer et il y a encore quelques jours, Del Toro promettait une réponse imminente à la question sur les lèvres de tous les fans de l'oeuvre de Tolkien et de la trilogie cinématographique de Peter Jackson.

C'est aujourd'hui chose faite puisque vient d'être annoncé une bonne fois pour toutes que Guillermo del Toro réalisera bien les deux films tirés des ouvrages de l'écrivain britannique (le premier retranscrivant les événements de Bilbo le Hobbit et le second faisant le lien entre ce dernier et Le Seigneur des anneaux) pour New Line-MGM.

Le cinéaste mexicain se rendra pour quatre ans en Nouvelle-Zélande afin de travailler au sein de Wingnut (la maison de production de Jackson) et Weta (sa compagnie spécialisée dans les effets spéciaux) pour le tournage consécutif des deux films qui devraient être écrits par le trio derrière la trilogie originale (Jackson, sa femme Fran Walsh et Philippa Boyens) en collaboration avec Del Toro.

Les films devraient arriver sur les écrans entre 2010 et 2012.

 

Source: FilmsdeCulte

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